Internet of course.
Reddit gains more accounts every day
When I signed up for Reddit I got my virginity back
Older generations used to hang out with friends a lot when they were young, and would actually meet girls.
These days far too many just stay in their rooms gaming, going on social networking sites, or watching porn.
If you don't enter the raffle, you'll never win the prize.
Then why is it only going up for men?
*shrug* I'm just guessing, here.
I think there are reasons for this that might be more positive than some of the others listed (like being on the Internet too much).
I'm a 33-year-old man who lives in the US. When I was an adolescent in the early 00s, the social messaging that we received was that sex was the pinnacle of human experience. I was raised to believe that having sex would be the most unforgettable and most exciting experience in my entire life. The music and movies of the time (like American Pie, for example) really reinforced this belief.
At age 33, having had plenty of sex (r/ihavesex), I've come to understand that, yes, while sex is lots of fun, it's not the be-all and end-all of existing. If I had to make a list of the greatest experiences of my life so far, I don't think a sexual encounter would be in the top 5.
So, IMO the messaging around sex has changed sufficiently that a lot of younger people aren't in such a huge rush to have sex, because they are being told what I know now - that sex is just one aspect of a full adult life and that it's not such a mind-bending experience that you need to rush out and get bangin' as soon as possible.
Now obviously this isn't a universal view (incels are still a problem, unfortunately), but it's getting better at least from what I can see.
I think this is the best answer, I grew up in the same era. When I finally had sex, it was disappointing because it had been hyped soooo much. Don’t get me wrong, it was good, but I was expecting insanity.
I mean, we're all born with it and can only lose it, can't exactly get more of it, idk how it could be on the rise.
Weird, I didn't lose anything on my first sex. In fact I gained something: experience
How much till you level up though?
Depends if it’s double XP or not. I’d say on a non double XP day it’s 10 sexes equal a level up.
Stop cheesing xp
It's that value constant? Like if I were to grind (heh) for a few weeks you think I could cap? Really trying to see the endgame
I’d say depends on if you can grab any buffs to increase the XP gain. If you can then you’d be good to see the end game content.
More virgin men than previous years
There's also more men in general than in previous years... More men means more male virginity. That is how numbers work.
I’m obviously talking about this generation compared to the last
Internet, COVID, busy work life if any, social anxiety
Video games > pussy
1. Internet. Why bother trying to conquer a lady's heart (and not only), if you can go watch some adult videos.
2. Women have higher expectations, and so do the men.
I belive most people have standards that are too high. This is not exclusive to one sex tho.
Because blasting the underside of your computer desk is much safer and easier.......but ew
Jerking off to porn for free. Little upside to a relationship anymore for a guy unless he wants kids. Conversely there’s a little upside to relationship anymore for a girl unless she wants kids, she doesn’t need a relationship to have them. Just some sperm
1. Because, for very valid evolutionary reasons, women are picky and thanks to the internet have access to a far greater choice of men. That means a handful of very attractive men clean-up in terms of hook-ups, while the rest do worse than before.
2. Because women overwhelmingly date equal or upwards in socioeconomic status. Given women in their 20s now typically have an income distribution similar to men, there are a whole bunch of men lower down that get squeezed out of the dating pool. (For similar reasons, women at the top also find there aren't enough men about.)
3. While getting sex is a lot harder for men, the alternative of porn is easier access than ever. Once upon a time men would have to go to lengths to get a centerfold of a still image of a nude woman. Now they can find their personal fetish for a porn star that matches their particular taste with a few clicks of a button.
4. Working hours are longer than ever before and so people don't have the time and practice to get out and meet people.
It's easier to find a clip online and jerk off than to actually put the time in and meet a girl to do the sexy time with. Plus you know, COVID.
Yes statistically for men but not women
So who is having sex with the women
The same men are being shared
Other women and non binary people probably.
Simply google virginity rates in young adults, you will see it skyrocket for men
Going to need see some evidence
I just told you where you can see MULTIPLE sources
That's... That's just not how this works, dude.
You're bringing this argument to the table. Telling people to go do their research for your argument is a surefire way to make everyone think you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about, and are just parroting shit you heard other people say.
I’ve done the research that’s why I made this post lol, I’m literally telling you put a few words into your browser you will find multiple just as I did
It is called education. For me, it is more important to learn now, at 19. I feel like this is the moment when i could learn everything i want and prepare for my future. 10 years from now i don't think i could understand and learn things as easy as i can now.
There are more young men than women and women's expectations have skyrocketed. Therefore the lowest x% of men will be rejected as partners. Pretty simple really.
Internet - The clashing of old traditional expectations and new-age fundamentalist thinking - financial hardship brought on by lib-right companies.. it goes on and on.
No one in their right mind will start a family they cant support.
Then why is it only going up for men and not women?
Those traditional expectations are about a "strong man" but that takes effort to get there and many are just so fed up about the plethora of bullshit, both politically and financially, that they --Just Don't Care--
For women, they are starting to come out of a "shell" of rules that were constructed and relentlessly enforced by those traditionalists.
You watch, gender-based roles are going to completely swap at some point in the next 20 to 30 years. Men are disensentivized to continue, women are incentivized to pickup where the men left off.
Its just a bunch of bullshit in both directions and we're all just trying to get by in life.
Women have gained more autonomy and socioeconomic status and on average tend not to date people who have less socioeconomic status than them. So the prospective dating pool for both sides have shrunken on average.
People on average are having sex later in their lives. The majority of people are straight, and the majority of people have sex with similarly aged people. Hence a reduction in general sex at young ages would pretty naturally lead to a reduction in sex for men at young ages.
As for the cause of that backgroubd variable? Internet, growing sex positivity (which encourages safer decisions, which reduces sex partners overall), more general education, and more cultures allowing for a slower social development.
The thing with that is why is it growing for men and not women?
Last time I looked at those stats (which was admittedly some time ago), it *was* growing for women.
By a small fraction of the amount it is for men to the point it’s incomparable
From a cursory google search (which I must stress is *faaaaar* from reliable, but this is also not a topic I am particularly invested in), it seems male sexuality ties stronger to the institute of marriage and weaker to the institute of education than is the case for women. It also negatively ties to habitating with parents far more than it does for women. Education has gone up, marriage has gone down, and adults living with parents have gone up.
So women demand higher status men than themselves and refuse to go lower?
I noted trends, not specifics on them. Quite frankly, I am not sure why those correlations exist. Maybe it is women with high expectations. Maybe it is male ego. Probably it's an amalgam. Given that education *negatively* correlates, I'd argue that claiming it is a matter of not being "high status" is clearly insufficient.
“Make ego.” Mmmmm all data suggests women would rather show the best men than stoop below a threshold but yh it’s men’s fault lol
I do not consider it a matter of "fault." Different people feel differently about how outgoing they want to be given different life circumstances. A negative connotation is not being applied here.
You are looking for an external reason to "woe is me" your problems away. Do you want me to say "Because women hate men and Stacies only pick the top 1% of Chads"? That is not the case, but if you want to play pretend and roll with it, the fact of the matter is that it would not meaningfully affect your situation. Furthermore, attempts to remedy it would not be successful.
Look. I'm being harsh. But if you are so concerned about your virginity that you are making regular posts about being a "24m kissless virgin," then I am certain the fundamental issue is with your *social behavior*. Stats on sexlessness are growing, sure, but the *majority* of your peers are still having sex. If you want to, too, then talk to them and practice socializing. Or you can just keep posting on reddit and reinforce the idea that you are not emotionally mature enough to be having it.
I'm glad someone gave this gold. I would've but I'm a broke dick.
I’m not saying they only want the top % I’m saying even the bottom % of women don’t want the bottom % off men so they wait for their turn with someone mid %
Social awkwardness and low self esteem from only talking to people online.
Too scared to talk to girls
No idea, I don’t make it a daily mission to ask young men if they’re virgins or not.
Do you make it a daily mission to comment on threads where you have nothing to contribute?
Do you have the daily mission to not get a joke and be an ass? It seems you do.
Why wouldn't it be? Most towns and cities don't have any privacy for anyone unless you pay to rent a room, and if you live in a suburb you often can't get anywhere to meet other people outside the suburb without a car.
Maybe they are trying to have the same standards for themselves as for the woman they would like to marry? I would hope that's the case at least.
Covid seems like the big one. Hard to get sexy social distancing. Also, is this a sheer numbers statistic or is it adjusted for population growth?
Specially young men of this generation, also if covid was the reason why is it not rising for women?
I mean maybe young men are being more honest now than they were before? Do you have a link to the study you’re talking about?
Women and girls have realized that without the financial impetus to hook a man early that a cat and a vibrator will get you the same experience as being with a lot men especially young ones.
But then why is sexlessness only going up for men?
The pandemic, obviously, been almost two years now.
So why has it only gone up for men then?
Many people are now finally growing up free from the old stepping stones of life “go to college, get married, have kids etc” you could say other factors like environment, bleak future but for one of the first times in the history of our country we’ve broken the shackles of religious indoctrination. There are also tons of things a teenager could be interested these days and those interests take up time, wanna be a music producer, programmer or animator? ok spend hours upon hours after school looking up tutorials on YouTube. Getting a girl as a teen isn’t as cool as it used to be and people are spending more time doing other shit.
But If that’s the case why is it only going up for men?
I have no idea, but I'm certainly part of the problem as a lesbian. Lmao!
Then why has it only gone up for men?
Increase in genders.
I think this is a pretty multiple faceted situation that has good an bad things. And I'll preface this whole thing to say that I don't think that it's a bad thing, in and of itself, to have higher virginity rates in men. I think there has been undue social pressure to have sex for a long time and that's not good.
In regards to the good side of it, I think women tend to have less need to "find a man to take care of them" than before. I've experienced it myself earlier in life... girls throwing themselves at me sexually trying to get a partner. I did not like it when I realized that happened sometimes and definitely did do a few things that I look back upon and wish I hadn't because we had different reasons for being intimate. They were using it as a means to find a partner whereas I was doing it because I thought we had chemistry/mutual attraction. That isn't to say that they weren't attracted to me, as well, but it wasn't the only motivation.
The flip side, and this is probably going to be unpopular, current crop of males is going too beta. Sure, there are girls that are into that, but even a lot of them that say they are into that really do want a traditional man in their life. The whole "consent" thing and accusations of "rape culture" and the like have caused a lot of guys to be too timid when it comes to women. The "Incel" problem is just a bunch of guys that aren't man enough to take care of business. Now I am not saying that there aren't and haven't been toxic groups of males. Absolutely. I deplore them as much as anyone. However, the overall attitude by certain groups towards men in general have gone a long way to emasculate men. Younger men seem to have major self confidence issues compared to other age groups, and I think that is caused by a combination of constantly being attacked from certain groups and the whole "you are too fragile to fail" culture we have with children now. Not everyone should get a trophy. Let kids fail now and then. It builds character and when they dust themselves off and stand back up again, they'll be stronger people.
Most women are attracted to traditionally styled men, not the beta neckbeard crowd that has popped up lately. I deal with a lot of younger men in the business that I am in and it's amazing how a lot view themselves. The lack of self confidence is very sad. Why is there that lack of confidence? Well, for one, they are lambasted at every point for masculinity being bad. It's not. It's absolutely OK to be a man. However, nearly everywhere you look on college campuses certain groups attack masculinity as being toxic. No. Masculinity is not toxic. Certain male groups are toxic, sure. There are quite a few toxic female groups, as well. In fact, I'd posit that those are even worse as they outright attack masculinity. And they are more overt about it. I do not agree with chauvinism in any way but I also think it's dumb not to realize that there are biological differences in the genders that translate into how we behave in different ways. Neither side should be suppressed as a whole. On an individual level, if one doesn't want to conform to what historically would be a norm for their gender, more power to you. I respect the heck out of people who go for what THEY want in life. Flip side, I have nothing but contempt for those that try to punish others for having different viewpoints.
Everyone should be picky. You are picky wether you realize it or not. There are women you wouldn't get with. IF virginity is "on the rise", it's because people are being smarter about who they entangle themselves with. Letting someone get that close to you is a good way to get hurt in lots of super fun ways. From having a kid you didn't want to contracting an STD you didn't want to having someone in your circle talk shit about you to ending up with a psycho stalker to PTSD from abuse to straight up rape or kidnapping or robbery and the list goes on and on. Being smart about who you let into your bed is just that, and sometimes it doesn't even matter because big evil can hide itself really well.
Getting your dick wet is not the end-all-be-all to a better life. You've got to stop letting this idea that you're somehow a failure for not getting laid rule your thoughts. When you stop caring and start focusing on yourself, it will happen naturally, because you'll progress as a person and become more naturally attractive.
Have you seen what passes for a young “man” these days? There are exceptions to the rule but they are getting fewer and farther between.
I don’t think it is at all. Quite literally the opposite.
Statistically people are having sex younger but the amount of MEN have sex is going down whilst for women it stays the same
I dont disagree with statistical observations. But once you have sex, you can no longer become a “virgin” again, so virginity cannot rise, it can only fall. Anything that is both irreversible and starter at 100%, cannot rise, it can, by logical rules, only decrease.
It can rise. We make new virgins every day.
Yeah, obviously. But then it’s a different population you’re sampling, who are completely independent from the previous.
No, the question is obviously about the change in the percentage of men of whatever age bracket are virgins at any given time, not about a fixed set of men. You are just deliberately misinterpreting the question in order to be pedantic and argumentative.
Weird, because you’re the one who couldn’t just scroll past my comment without arguing.
Medically speaking, the definition of a virgin is a woman who’s hymen is intact so men cannot be virgins and women don’t need to have sex to lose theirs
Low hanging fruit is Tinder. Men get rejected at significantly higher rates, leading to walking away from even trying, leading to rampant porn addiction. This also explains why this situation isn't seen in women.
So you think it’s because men have stopped trying?
Not most men, but larger and larger numbers of them, absolutely. It's risk/reward analysis and effort/reward analysis. In today's world, it's skewed away from being worthwhile for many.
We’re not allowed to talk to women anymore.
Because there's a fucking pandemic, Craig.
Then why has it not gone up for women
It probably has dude all women aren’t out here having tons of sex
Nope, statistically it has not
Sounds like you’re reading data heavily skewed to align with far right incel ideals.
If that data is true then here:
Women make one post and your dms are flooded with hundreds of messages from guys only which 1-3 of those will interest you.
Guys on the other hand are the ones having to do the searching it requires a ton more effort. Constantly sending messages out to get nothing in return.
If women are having sex more it’s because it’s easier and requires less effort. You’re pretty much checking the guy until you decide you like him or don’t.
What if my definition of attractive is a man that looks like they have learning disabilities.
What kind of question is this? No one is going to go for someone they don’t find attractive what’s the big deal
This is something you’re just pulling out right now. Everyone has their own definition of ugly. Social hindering in what way? Are they just quiet? Or is their personality akin to a psychopath/toxic male/asshole
Autistic and objectively ugly
Younger generations are broker and more stressed than they've ever been which isn't exactly an aphrodisiac. Boomers are the first generation in US history whose children will have a lower standard of living than they did. This is just one wave of the ripple effect.
Because the last 2 years you can't go out
Then why for women has it not also gone up?