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AdmiralAkbar1

Well this is certainly a loaded question.


BurnedOutStars

I gotta be honest though, I'm glad someone asked it. Loaded, sure, but after hearing someone tell *me* that: "Vaccines are NOT safe, and YES they DID put microchips into this one and YES the virus WAS manufactured on purpose and anything AGAINST this idea is fake news, straight up": I'd like a fucking answer too. Fucking. ***WHY*** People I personally know said "the vaccine has microchips in it for tracking" that THEN actually GOT the vaccine and *then* claimed "I was wrong the first time" but that they only ever say this when they personally are effected....And I want to know how we can prevent this unnecessary stupidly-long wait for the uneducated to get caught up to speed. I want that shit to go faster because it *needs to. We are not always going to have the luxury of available time of coddling people who hate facts.* as though the intent for people who say "fake-news" is actually *not* about pushing real information forward, but rather attempting to get factual and helpful information to be kept *back* from people for either their own ego or simply because they don't like how reality makes *them feel.* *So yes, I would also love the answer to OP's question as I think many people are interested in this answer. I don't personally care if it's loaded, it should be answered.*


KitteNlx

It's a Catch 22. You can't ignore them and not try to counter claims of fake news, because all they do is spread fake news, so you have to start screaming about fake news, then you seem like you're one of them.


BurnedOutStars

yep and what I would like every dumbass conspiracy theorist out there to know is: No, the moon landing was not faked. It would have required at MINIMUM 100,000 people to keep ALL the secrets from the process and methods down to the flag and the location of some "hollywood basement" that never gets described in any kind of meaningful way to be able to know wtf they are talking about. No, they didn't put microchips in the Covid vaccines, Notwithstanding the idea that the tech simply does not exist in the form described, but that the cost and gargantuan amount of red-tape to cut-through and all the channels to go through in order to get these fantasy "microchips" into a vaccine would be absolutely mind-boggling insane when....your phone that you're using to read this? Tracks you and is doing so right right now. Yes, steel does start to melt and get noodle-level type of bendy when its heated to the degree that a plane flying into a tower, would cause. No, Donald Trump did not win the election. Yes, the proper way to test this is to go through the courts. Which Trump did. With me so far? Ok, so so far, so good. He wanted to check the legitimacy so he wished to do so through courts. With me still? Yes he obviously knew he wasn't telling the truth, but liars don't just outright admit to their lies unless they are forced to. Trump showed up to **30+** courts at a rapid-pace, and every single court told him "nope". You require *evidence* in order to be able to go forward with an actual case where they need to look at actual evidence in order to determine that case. With NO evidence brought in? *Then a court must go on "gut feeling" (lies) in lieu of evidence and this is not how the court system actually works. You don't just get a "hunch" (excuse for your lie) to then get a court to agree.* Trump did everything possible to try and get it turned around, but the reason he couldn't? the reason he absolutely did leave the white house? the reason not one thing worked? even an insurrection caused by morons? It's because he really actually lost. Transgender people, even at young ages, are not all in on some huge "woke" conspiracy plotted only to make non LGBTQ angry, upset and afraid. They are expressing themselves and your loony-bin crack-pot theories are actually causing damage to these children, these young adults, these adults who clearly have more strong heads on their shoulders than anyone who believes such nonsense. There is just so much more I could go on and on about, but what's the point? The only people that should be answering the OP's question? ***Never will***


User_492006

Not gonna lie, I'm not **convinced** CovID was an accident either.


Far_Locksmith_Bro

No point in arguing with Conservatives. Tried that and I got banned from r/Conservative entirely. You can present facts to them and they still ignore it


QuickBen41

Do you believe January 6th was an Insurrection?


Arkeband

in·sur·rec·tion /ˌinsəˈrekSH(ə)n/ noun a violent uprising against an authority or government. Yep, seems to have been an insurrection. The word that is more questionable is “coup” which requires motive and planning, and it also seems to fit that as we learn more about Trump and GOP legislators involvement.


Odd-Calligrapher-586

Why by that definition BLM is an insurectionist institution? Or does >a violent uprising against an authority or government. Not apply when you are killing cops and threatening the president into his security bunker? "Defund the police" is insurection little boy.


Arkeband

Glad you agree that Jan 6th was an insurrection!


ArdyAy_DC

Lmao


AnnonLife

We watched it unfold on television that day. A year later we are watching right wing people be arrested for it everyday.


QuickBen41

Arrested for shit like Trespassing, not Sedition or "Insurrection". I guess you know more and have access to more info than the DOJ and FBI who have both concluded that it was NOT an Insurrection? You better do your duty as a citizen and get your evidence into the hands of the relevant agencies!!!


Far_Locksmith_Bro

Uh, yes


QuickBen41

So despite facts being presented to you that it wasn't you ignore them and continue believing it? I mean, zero people have been charged with anything related to an "Insurrection" and Bidens FBI and DOJ have both concluded in multiple reports that it was in fact NOT an Insurrection.....and YET you ignore all that and still believe it. What was that you were saying about Conservatives again?


ArdyAy_DC

Imagine getting online to make false statements ^


Congenital0ptimist

Do you believe outer space is big?


QuickBen41

Immeasurable.


Artishard85

Same thing happened to me on r/politics


Far_Locksmith_Bro

ah r/Conservative and r/poliics, what "free speech" subs


Artishard85

Yep, two sides of the same nonobjective coin.


mean_mr_mustard75

Yeah, sure, who did you insult?


Artishard85

Pretty much anyone on the left or any cannon of the left is off limits. Think it was a negative comment about the efficacy of the covid shot, maybe about the smear campaign on effective alternate treatments. Which is dumb, bc medicine shouldn’t be political.


Odd-Calligrapher-586

I can answer it for you but the answer doesn't align with your opinionated conclusions. "Is the vaccine safe?" Define "safe" because this is a qualified opinion. There is no quantifiable standard for "safety" but you want to rely on this instead of facts.


ArdyAy_DC

This is a silly take made in bad faith ^


Shaddy_the_guy

Nothing that represents conservative opinions accurately makes them look good.


WallabyUpstairs1496

It's true though. Look at Bill Gates. There is verified facts about his meetings with Epstein, reported in reputable publications. But instead they're still going with 5g covid bullshit. It's because the latter doesn't give them a superiority complex. They need to feel that they're smarter by figuring out something the rest couldn't.


ComputersWantMeDead

With Gates and Epstein, though.. Gates may have been ill advised to go into talks with him, but it was all in the context of a massive charitable fund. I think the right wing conspiracies regularly take a grain of truth, and twist it - so facts are only used only as far as they are useful.


AnnonLife

I like to believe that but it’s from an open discussion some mates and I had earlier. We couldn’t name any conspiracy theories shared by liberals. 🤷🏻‍♂️


AdmiralAkbar1

There are plenty of conspiracy theories with a left-wing bent to them, or at least featuring prominent conservatives as villains: * The Bush administration knew about or orchestrated 9/11 * George H.W. Bush was involved in the assassination of JFK * The Reagan administration started the crack epidemic to oppress the black population * A "[vast right-wing conspiracy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vast_right-wing_conspiracy)" manufactured all of Bill Clinton's scandals * Donald Trump conspired with the Russian government to rig voting tallies in his favor in 2016 Furthermore, there are plenty of groups that aren't quite left, but certainly fall outside of the American conservative mainstream—e.g., the Nation of Islam—that propagate numerous conspiracy theories.


DoYouLikeHardCandy

Is the Reagan thing even disputed?


AnnonLife

Right. It was proven the government took part in creating the pipeline for drug cartels.


AdmiralAkbar1

Yes. The main driver of the claims was Gary Webb, a journalist with the San Jose Mercury News, who ran several news stories in 1996 alleging that the Contras (Nicaraguan anti-communist rebels) had smuggled cocaine into the US with the aid and approval of American intelligence agencies to fund their operations. He later compiled these claims into a book called *Dark Alliance*. However, at the time, Webb's claims were criticized by other papers of note. The [New York Times](https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/98/09/27/specials/cia-pivotal.html), for instance, pointed out that Webb had at best proved that a couple Nicaraguan coke smugglers who supplied a major LA crack dealer sporadically spent a few thousand dollars helping the Contras, and that nobody—court records, US officials, both pro- and anti-Contra Nicaraguan forces—had any proof that these smugglers ever had any CIA ties.


DoYouLikeHardCandy

Proving CIA ties, just think about how hard that actually is. Possibly the most covert secret operation in the world’s existence Edit: If you know someone in the CIA, they’re not in the CIA. They’re a fucking pencil pusher


friendoffreya

>• ⁠The Reagan administration started the crack epidemic to oppress the black population [Reagan maybe, Nixon yes. And it was marijuana, not crack.](https://harpers.org/archive/2016/04/legalize-it-all/)


AdmiralAkbar1

I've always found that quote to be pretty spurious. It allegedly came from a private interview Ehrlichman did 20+ years prior, and the interviewer never published it because it didn't "fit the narrative style" of the book he was writing at the time, even though said book was *literally about government machinations behind the evils and excesses of the War on Drugs*. And then he decided to sit on it for decades, until long after Ehrlichman was dead.


blitzwit143

1. Yeah this one is dumb, but they definitely downplayed the Saudi connection because of the Bush family’s close ties to Saudi leadership and the money that the royal family spends. 2. First I’ve heard of this one. 3. Bill is responsible for all his scandals, mostly penis related, but there was certainly an effort to paint the Clinton family as responsible for tons of assassinations of political rivals, all of which have no basis in fact. 4. There’s actually compelling evidence that Trump is a Russian asset. Just because a majority Republican senate suppressed evidence and refused to explore testimony and later voted not to remove from office doesnt mean he wasn’t guilty, only that they weren’t willing to hold him accountable.


DoYouLikeHardCandy

Trump’s association with Russia is demonstrated by facts Edit: The “hoax” is whatever you think the hoax is. Trump is associated with Russia period. There’s no denying it


QuickBen41

Associated doesn't mean conspired to steal an election you doorknob.


AnnonLife

I don’t believe he tried to “steal” any election. He did however reiterate the false claims being pushed my Russian provocateurs. He intended to cause discourse amongst citizens and undermine all institutions that weren’t aligned with him.


QuickBen41

So....just like every politician does Repub and Democrat?


ArdyAy_DC

Wrong


DoYouLikeHardCandy

Did I say that?


QuickBen41

Who cares if he's "associated" with Russia? Is that a crime? Is he getting $500k to do 30 minute speeches in Russia like the Clinton's have for years?


mean_mr_mustard75

>Who cares if he's "associated" with Russia? Is that a crime? That depends on whether you consider Russia under Putin to be an adversarial power. Obviously the MAGAts don't.


QuickBen41

Less adversarial than China by a long shot. And which party howled and cried at any attempts to reign in China? It's almost like the Dems are in bed with the Chinese hey?


mean_mr_mustard75

"Russia, if you're listening..." Just a joke, right? Trump is the only right winger that could get away with claiming the US is as bad as Putin. Had a Dem done so, the right wing entertainment media would have been howling in outrage.


QuickBen41

Yeah, one little problem.....the USA is as bad as Putin. That's not even debatable. Name 3 things that Putin has done that the USA hasn't.


mean_mr_mustard75

\>Yeah, one little problem.....the USA is as bad as Putin. Name and quote 5 prominent Repubs that have said so. \>Name 3 things that Putin has done that the USA hasn't. Heads of state poisoning their domestic political rivals? Imprisoning domestic political rivals? Russian apartment bombings in September 1999, which led the country into the Second Chechen War, and brought Putin to power ? • The assassination in London of former Russian state security officer Alexander Litvinenko who claimed, inter alia, that Putin ordered the Russian apartment bombings ? • A widespread crackdown on media freedoms, with Russian reporters being killed and muzzled—such as the shooting death of Anna Politkovskaya\[18\]—and media outlets being shut down?


AnnonLife

I find just as many conservatives believe that 9/11 was an inside job. I believe any government official could be involved in an assassination. Not too far fetched. Vast Right Wing Conspiracy? Sounds like common practice these days with the spread of misinformation. I’ve never in my life heard any conspiracy or anyone mention the 2016 election was rigged by way of votes. It was proven that Russia had farms of people spreading discourse throughout America to undermine our election system by having us lose faith in our institutions.


AdmiralAkbar1

Per a [November 2018 poll](https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/ylp5ygohjs/econTabReport.pdf) by The Economist and YouGov, 67% of Democrats surveyed believed that the Russian government had altered voter tallies in 2016 to make Trump win. This has never been proven. Similarly, as of April 2020, [77% of Democrats](https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/j17063-QHHP041220-PostWtd-Ban1-Sec1-Filtered-16-Apr-2020.pdf) believed that the Steele dossier's claims of Trump colluding with the Russian government were accurate. This was after the 2019 release of the Mueller report, which said that many of the dossier's central claims—that Michael Cohen had a secret meeting with Russian officials in Prague, that Carter Page was given shares in Rosneft, that Paul Manafort was part of a conspiracy with the Russian government, and that Trump was being blackmailed with his weird sexual fetishes—were uncorroborated.


AnnonLife

The first poll was done with only 10k people. The second poll was less that 2,400 registered voters.


AdmiralAkbar1

That's generally how most major polls work: taking what seems like a relatively small, but evenly distributed cross-section of the population.


AnnonLife

A poll is a snapshot, not a forecast. Please read up on how polls can be weighted, mis leading or unknowingly biased. Many polls had Hilary Clinton wining the election easily. Those in favor of Trump had him barely winning. We all seen how that night turned out.


AdmiralAkbar1

Except these polls aren't meant to infer future events, simply get a sense of public feelings. And those public feelings point to Democrats believing that Russian involvement in the 2016 election was far more extensive than reality.


AnnonLife

Take a STAT 101 class online.


tjblue

Trump did barley win. In fact, he lost the popular vote. Electors don't represent the actual numbers voting for a candidate nationally.


mean_mr_mustard75

>A " > >vast right-wing conspiracy > >" manufactured all of Bill Clinton's scandals It pretty much did. Starr looked into all these 'scandals' and could only find that Clinton lied about having consensual sex in the Oval Office.


punpunpuck

No, because everything is racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, you name it. Silence is violence, but you're not to talk about stuff.


U-Neek03

This is what is called a slippery sloped question and a loaded question


Odd-Calligrapher-586

There is so much wrong with this question. The fact that OP doesn't know what a "conspiracy theory" is defined as is one of them


ArdyAy_DC

They didn’t get the definition wrong. That’s an odd statement to make.


Odd-Calligrapher-586

Did you know that any bussiness venture with investment is a "conspiracy" and when you talk about their plans its a "theory" Amazon's quarterly projection is a conspiracy theory you fool


AnnonLife

The fact that you try to redirect the question. 😂


Odd-Calligrapher-586

I litterally explained why your blanket term does not apply Sorry you lack the ability to reflect on that. The US sending aid to Ukraine is a "conspiracy theory". The use of the term is a false dichotomy and logically makes no sense in the question. How about you try asking a question in English instead of spouting off gibberish and calling people stupid when YOU don't understand the words you use.


Hades_Moon

First let's distinguish what the difference is between facts and mainstream opinion. Then we can continue. Maybe.


AnnonLife

Give an example that you believe is mainstream opinion and not facts.


Hades_Moon

Climate change is predominantly man-made.


AnnonLife

Predominately man made? I’d argue most people know the earth has climate shifts over centuries. This is taught in grade school. Metrics have shown a steady increase in green house gases since the industrial revolution. That is a fact.


Hades_Moon

They've shown a minimal rise of CO2. It's still measured in ppm alright? Also, it's not a greenhouse gas, it's heavier than air. Google Milankovic cycles.


AnnonLife

I’d love to see this science journal or link showing it’s only risen slightly. Also it’s not green house gasses, it’s heavier than air? Go to bed. You can’t type a coherent sentence when you’re sleepy.


ArdyAy_DC

Lmao that’s not opinion.


Rubber_Fist_of_love

I am not a conservative but this is a pretty shitty question.


AnnonLife

I could have framed it better. Why do they believe such far reaching conspiracies.


Rubber_Fist_of_love

Because the human mind Is a bunch of Spam and Tinfoil getting electro fucked and we're all in this weird society thing and there's no actual way to interact with each other and to behave. It's a miracle the next person you see hasn't nodded your face off. We don't know what we're doing and sometimes we believe in really stupid shit.


User_492006

Nevermind the arrogant nature of the question, I'll try to explain to you why ***I*** think such people are prone to such beliefs. Trust, or lack of, in major news outlets. They've all shown us who's pockets they're in and they barely even try to pretend they're not biased anymore. When one feels as though they can no longer trust what they hear on TV, and they begin to feel as though the "news" is engineered to make them feel a certain way so that profit can be made off of them, they begin to question a lot of things that they wouldn't have otherwise if their trust hadn't been destroyed.


ooperbang6

I do not. Although, I know for a fact that the government is hiding the dome from us and Covid is actually a really small bird species. The earth is a donut controlled by the liberal media and Joe Biden eats babies for breakfast.


_Oudeis

Babies for breakfast? Horrendous. Everyone knows they are a lunch menu item.


KeepTangoAndFoxtrot

Pfft you believe in birds??


AnnonLife

Mother of god


DoYouLikeHardCandy

They purposefully left out the /s


friendoffreya

We hope.


Brilliant-Average654

Lol are you thinking of Corvids?


tjblue

Corvids are not small.


Brilliant-Average654

Ants are not big? Are you trying to play a game or something?


tjblue

Is this a pop culture reference I'm not getting?


poobae

Dumb question. If you subscribe wholly to one party, you’re already psyopd, and are brainwashed by the propaganda.


AnnonLife

I can’t stand the far left just as much as the far right.


poobae

Well once again, dumb question. You’re implying that **only** conservatives fall victim to conspiracy theories, when liberals are just as, if not more guilty.


AnnonLife

I’m implying that conservatives tend to follow farther reaching conspiracies that can be easily debunked with facts but choose to believe Reddit forums more than investigative journalists.


poobae

And I’m implying that both sides are equally guilty of this. You need to understand that the media, journalists, and authority figures **aren’t** your friends. They will lie, mislead, and gaslight the general population to benefit their own agendas. Reading between the lines and doing your own research, gathering info from **many** sources to draw conclusions is what matters.


AnnonLife

Gathering information from reputable objective reporting. Yes most news media conglomerates have their own best interest in mind. CNN and Fox live sensational news stories. I believe you just gaslighted me by telling me not to let anyone else gaslight me. 😂


SeSuSo

>when liberals are just as, if not more guilty. Like what?


Batmaso

liberals aren't left wing


ShakespearianWombat

The premise of the question implies that conservatives all believe in conspiracy theory, and are too dumb to actually think about it. I'm not gonna answer. It's demeaning.


DeNir8

Not conservative, but please.. This is blatant propaganda firing in the any direction!


Celq124

Lol I thought anyone who don’t believe presented facts is because they question the very facts also. I.e. if you present a video of someone miraculously instantaneously healed of their wounds, if you don’t believe what you saw in the video, it’s because you dont even believe the video is real and legitimate and you think someone made that up. Same idea isn’t it?


hamrmech

I dont know how anyone believes in any conspiracy theories. Congress is playing the stock market like a cheap 70s pinball machine, where they can tilt the board and win every time, while regular working people lose their asses in their 401ks. We had a disinformation board run by homeland security, for gods sake. Theres no conspiracy theory thats more ridiculous than the truth.


Nernoxx

It's not uncommon for people to get stuck into a sunken-cost fallacy. If they have spent significant resources (i.e. time, money, emotion) into the theory then its harder to abandon it because they feel invested. Some people identify it as a part of their identity - because of sunken cost or because they just genuinely believe it. Some people have had negative experiences with "experts" that makes them less likely to trust experts and more likely to trust people that have had similar experiences to theirs. You would be surprised how little it takes for people to latch on to someone and then go along for the ride. Hard as it is to believe, things like, "Trump talks like me", or, "Dave Ramsey's book helped me get outta debt" are enough for some people to follow them like Moses going into the desert.


GrammatonYHWH

**TL;DR - Massive chip on their shoulder.** Most often, they are uneducated, unaccomplished, and have no prospects. They are probably stuck in the same town they grew up in. Their career and pay progression has probably peaked in their 20s. They can't accept that this is as good as it gets. They are snowflakes who grew up being told that they're destined for greatness, but greatness has never and will never materialize. So they band around conspiracy theories. It's their way of feeling smart, enlightened, and educated without doing any of the hard work. They convince themselves that they've peaked behind the curtain. They pat themselves on the back for knowing what's really going on and how the world works. Conspiracy theories are a double-pronged tool. They can be used to simultaneously elevate the conspiracy theorist AND diminish or nullify the achievements of people who have put in the hard work to get ahead. > Ha! Doctors spent 10 years becoming a doctor, and they know less than someone who spent 10 minutes on the internet. This is evidence that I should be the one making 6 figures and driving a Porsche. And conspiracy theories have built-in safety measures to discredit any evidence against them. The lack of evidence to support the theory is evidence that the theory is true. The Man has suppressed the truth! Evidence against the theory is also evidence that the theory is true. The Man doesn't want the truth to come out, so they've fabricated evidence!


AnnonLife

I came from a very small town and witnessed it and still do actually. Many people from my town won’t get the vaccine and only because they believe it’s for population control rather than say it just hasn’t been tested enough.


QuickBen41

So mich elitism, arrogance and classism in one post lol.


GrammatonYHWH

Dear Conservatives, if elitism and classism bothers you so much, why do you oppose measures to elevate the working class by bridging the wealth, education, and opportunity gap? Curious...


QuickBen41

Not sure. Go ask a Conservative.


AnnonLife

So many one liners from your account.


QuickBen41

And?


AnnonLife

You couldn’t articulate a true statement to save your life.


User_492006

I didn't know credibility was determined by how many words you type, TIL.


AnnonLife

Not the count of words but the substance in your text. He lacks both.


Congenital0ptimist

The truth can be very unfair.


QuickBen41

Or maybe it's just another asshole Democrat thinking they're better than people that don't think like them lol. Yeah, imma go with that


ArdyAy_DC

“Yeah, imma get this wrong on purpose because I’m embarrassed you just schooled me on this topic”


Congenital0ptimist

It's hard to treat willful ignorance like it's some sort of acceptable virtue that is just a "different way of thinking".


QuickBen41

And it's impossible to converse with people that think their way is the only way on every single issue and won't even consider compromise in any fashion. That goes for tribalist idiots like Democrats and their tribalist idiot buddies on the right.


Grumpy_Yuppie

I don't? Or is this specifically meant for US conservatives which aren't actually conservatives but basically just right-winged extremists and borderline fascists?


ValvanHNW

Definitely meant for US conservatives


yeetypotato

With the way things are going its not borderline fascism...


Senseless_Chatter

Dumb


stefstars93

They want to believe they’re smart and “rebellious”


Emu_on_the_Loose

Pretty much. Most of them know deep down that they're on the wrong side of both justice and history, so they look for any wild cockamamie theory to rationalize their discriminatory, exploitative, neglectful ideology.


bbt00107

What a statement this is 😂


DoYouLikeHardCandy

They aren’t really wrong though. It’s overzealous but…


Latifi_WDC_2023

People from all sides believe stupid conspiracy theories, the fact you've chosen to limit this to conservatives is just you trying to push an anti conservative circle jerk instead of actually trying to start interesting discussion on the topic which is fucking stupid and childish.


AnnonLife

I’d argue far right conspiracies tend to push the envelope on what’s plausible.


Rubber_Fist_of_love

People of all kinds of beliefs will do all kinds of backflips through ridiculous shit to keep themselves delusional.


AnnonLife

I don’t see the far left pushing white replacement theory or Jews control the world conspiracies. What wild shit hoops are liberals jumping through currently?


DoYouLikeHardCandy

You can delete this. Too loaded of a question


AnnonLife

Just tell us you believe in space lasers.


DoYouLikeHardCandy

I’m a democrat buddy


AnnonLife

It’s loaded to draw engagement. Worked pretty well if you ask me. 😉


DoYouLikeHardCandy

AskReddit is not for loaded political questions whether I agree with you or not


AnnonLife

Seeing the types of questions you engage in and the comments you give, I’m going to end my transmission with you now. Good day sir.


DoYouLikeHardCandy

Oh no, please go on. I would encourage everyone to look at my comments. I’m just telling you this question has no place on r/AskReddit


Designer-Dare-3457

Don’t worry about it. That’s my takeaway. These people are just goofy and can’t be reasoned with.


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AnnonLife

I don’t recall a wide spread campaign calling for a recount of votes during the 2016 election.


crazydave686

I mean the Russian election interference was pretty similar.


AnnonLife

https://www.acslaw.org/projects/the-presidential-investigation-education-project/other-resources/key-findings-of-the-mueller-report/ You mean this, ‘The investigation produced 37 indictments; seven guilty pleas or convictions; and compelling evidence that the president obstructed justice on multiple occasions. Mueller also uncovered and referred 14 criminal matters to other components of the Department of Justice.’


Batmaso

liberals are not progressives


ArdyAy_DC

Except for the fact it existed. Lmao


ParkityParkPark

that's not really a conservative thing tho, it's more a ignorant/paranoid people thing. Personally, I think it just seems like conservatives have more conspiracy theories because theirs tend to be a little more outlandish (probably partially due to the high levels of conservatives living in rural areas and small towns with a lesser flow of information and culture).


AnnonLife

Living in rural areas and small towns with a lesser flow of information and culture. 🎯 I grew up in one of those small towns. We didn’t know anything outside of it until I graduated High School and moved to the city.


punpunpuck

And are we talking about conspiracy theories like Hunter Biden's laptop or like lizard jew KKK people controlling the world?


AnnonLife

How much hard evidence is their to support Hunter Bidens laptop deal. I will admit I have done zero research into the Hunter scandal myself but believe if they did have solid, tangible evidence that it would have been presented.


punpunpuck

Let's wait and see: https://nypost.com/2022/05/03/repairman-who-revealed-hunter-biden-laptop-sues-schiff-cnn-politico-beast/


NQ241

That story is so full of holes its hard to fathom how people believe it


punpunpuck

I wouldn't but it past Bidens, I mean if someone believes that family has USA's best interest in their mind, then those people are deluded.


NQ241

Not having the USA's best interest in mind and being a tax evading pedo collaborating with the Russians are 2 completely different things. You can't compare apples and oranges.


punpunpuck

That's a lot of adjectives. I can only guess which news someone is parroting.


NQ241

>being a tax evading pedo collaborating with the Russians are 2 completely different things That would be fox news' view on hunter yes


punpunpuck

Pretty dangerous to listen just one side, might not get enough information to do some research by oneself.


NQ241

I literally am a liberal who just referenced something from fox news... What are you on about?


ArdyAy_DC

You sound clueless. There’s zero reason to agree with this opinion, which was clearly formed without the aid of facts nor reality.


FearTheKeflex

I'd like to believe most conservatives don't believe all this bullshit like the microchips or QAnon or whatever, but their silence on the matter is just as bad. I would bet most Republicans in Congress don't believe in QAnon, but they don't dare to speak against it because it gets them votes.


AnnonLife

I find democrats are better about calling out their own party. These newer justice democrats have shown they do not need to take special interest money to gain notoriety. They came in to shake up the system, including their own party.


ttnl35

I'm not a Conservative, but I am self aware about possibly being part of a conspiracy believing group right now, and I'd say the main reason is not trusting the source of those facts even a little bit. I mean say the american Republican party funded a study which showed 99% of women are happier when forced to give birth, despite originally wanting an abortion. No one sensible would buy that, but suddenly the people that reject the results of the study can be accused by republicans of going by their emotions rather than the facts.


ArdyAy_DC

Except it isn’t the Democratic Party that told people the facts. And before you mention “teh MSM!!1!”, it’s not only them, either. It’s also all the judges that have thrown out cases related to Trump’s lie, it’s the few Republicans with the spine to simply state the truth, it’s also the Republicans who in the moment spoke the truth, but then backtracked to keep Trump’s boots in their mouth, and finally, it’s Trump and his sycophants themselves, who have strung along the least intelligent among us for nearly two years now, never once providing a shred of evidence, yet simply repeating the lie, literally indoctrinating people. So no, you haven’t made an apt comparison nor provided a legitimate justification for believing completely made up nonsense for almost 2 years.


ttnl35

Dude chill. I'm not even American. I don't even know wtf you are talking about, you say "Trump's lie" like I'm supposed to know which lie out of the 1000s he's told in the last week. My hypothetical was just meant to be an example of how some people will fall into conspiracy black holes because of distrust of where facts are coming from. **My point was not about republicans, it was about how people who believe any conspiracy theory generally distrust the 'fact providers' on the opposite side.** You could change the example to one about how cats could fund a study saying 99% of mice are pests, mice would reject the results because they don't trust cats, and the the cats could accuse the mice of being conspiracy theorists. It would still back up the point I want trying to make.


CatherineConstance

This is such a stupid “question” lmao how are you not embarrassed saying shit like this


bluntisimo

idk why do liberals have such a hard time with penis=male


AnnonLife

Can you distinguish the difference between sex and gender?


Mission_Anything_429

The difference between sex and gender? I’ll have a wild guess. Sex is to hardware as gender is to software?


AnnonLife

Go on. lol


Mission_Anything_429

I’m one of the many people that can struggle with expressing exact thoughts clearly, and this is a learning moment for me if I’m way off. Let’s use cars as an example. The car is the body, the engine is the heart, the management system is the brain. A car will generally be produced with standard management system for that model (let’s say female). At times the same model will be produced with a different management system (let’s say male). This is ok as both cars run just fine with the management system they were released with, even if the system was meant to be in a different model. I hope this makes sense. I’m sure I’ll be educated if I’m way off.


bluntisimo

yes one is backed by science, the other is just insanity, but don't worry ill play pretend so i dont lose my job.


_Oudeis

If it could be shown that science does back transgenderism, would you alter your position?


AnnonLife

You clearly answered my question.


NQ241

>yes one is backed by science Yea sex and gender being different things *is* backed by science. There's this whole area of study called neuroscience. Look it up, I bet you don't even know what a limbic system is.


DoYouLikeHardCandy

Gender isn’t sex


bluntisimo

There is no thing as gender only sex


emo_cunthole

yikes 🫵


UnitedBullet_603

So I lean more to the right when it comes to politics but if I’m presented with facts that come from a reliable I’ll believe the facts that being said I think that a lot of dumbasses give most conservatives a bad name especially when it comes to Trump I agree with some of the things he said/ done something’s I don’t most people I know are right and agree are pro abortion and other ideas that lean with the left but most people think we are hardcore redneck assholes


tom5558

Not sure what conservatives you speak to but most will change their mind when presented with evidence


ArdyAy_DC

Many have tied their entire identities to their political team. The rallies, the dressing up, the chants, the slogans. It’s why there are still people with Trump billboards in their yard, but more importantly it’s why there are so many people willing to believe so much nonsense, despite what reality says. It’s probably easier adding BS to an already entirely-BS tale than to actually look in the mirror and say “Damn, I might’ve been wrong.”


middleagethreat

It is a valid question. In 2022 to be a conservative, you basically have to prove you believe 1+1=5.


CamCraig13

I’m not sure if the Covid vax works. This is mostly because I’ve decided to be an asshole because everyone around my is such a bitch about it (I live in California), like stfu and I might’ve actually gotten it. Edit: side note, I haven’t had any problems with Covid and I take no precautions. Both of the 2 times I had it I had extremely minimal symptoms and I just stayed home for a couple days.


ArdyAy_DC

> like stfu and I might’ve actually gotten it By far, the most toddler-like take I’ve read in weeks, about anything. So you don’t know if the vax works, Because you purposely chose to remain clueless about it because some people tried to get you to get it (smart money says mom is one of those people), but no worries, because “it only kept me home for days *both* times I had it…” lmao


QuickBen41

Democrats/Leftys.....why do you still believe in the Russiagate conspiracy theory after it was throughly debunked? Why do you guys still believe the conspiracy theory that J6 was an Insurrection even though Bidens DOJ and FBI have both repeatedly said there was no Insurrection?


AnnonLife

False. They have not continuously stated there was no insurrection. It’s a very particular crime that must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Instead many have been charged with misdemeanors and lesser felonies. Here’s the fun part. Now sedition on the other hand. Federal prosecutors have charged Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes and 10 others with seditious conspiracy for their role in the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol. Hold onto the little “they wont call it an insurrection” argument all you want. It’s been clearly laid out what happened that day and by whom. You know have 3%era and Oath Keepers actively working with the federal government to gather all the evidence.


ArdyAy_DC

Imagine thinking this ^ you have fallen prey to disinformation.


QuickBen41

Nothing I said was false.


Spamh8r

I'd ask the same question of liberals and conservatives with regards to GMOs, homeopathy, vaccines, and any other number of non-scientific beliefs.


missed_sla

Vaccines are non-scientific? Do tell.


bluntisimo

not many conservatives in the magic healing crystal conventions.


Various_Succotash_79

Surprisingly, they're starting to. The Marjorie Taylor Greene types. Idk if they went so far left that they ended up on the right or what but yeah. I think home births and homeopathy also used to be hippie kind of stuff but that's totally flipped.


AnnonLife

Solid point. I see more home healing with essential oils and anti ANY vaccine from the right than I do with the left these days.


mailordermonster

IMO, Because they like to 1. appear smarter than others. Much easier to do if the "facts" are made-up. 2. Because they want to believe in a world based on order. Chaos is scary. Much easier to believe that there's someone calling the shots, regardless of whether it's good or bad.


JlTlS

Trumpettes 🤣


HaamerPoiss

I don'tthink you even know what "conservative" means


Gogogadget1993

Have family members who are on the right. They believe in conspiracy theories because the theory sometimes turns out to be true. A few examples below. Corona Lab Theory: For about 15 months, it was considered a conspiracy theory to suggest that the coronavirus may have been man-made in the Wuhan Institute of Virology. It became clear as time went on that the lab in question did in fact research coronaviruses in bats and other mammals, they were experimenting with the virus, and they destroyed nearly all their research papers in March 2020. With the facts we know now, it certainly seems less like a conspiracy theory. Don’t Wear Masks: People in NY remember the first three months of the pandemic when Dr. Fauci advised not wearing masks because they didn’t do anything. Many doubted that masks don’t help, and they were labeled anti-science. It came out that Dr. Fauci was telling people not to wear masks so there would not be a shortage for emergency workers. Doubting the Vaccines: For a long time, anyone who raised even the slightest doubts about the efficacy of the corona virus vaccines was labeled anti-science. News articles are now coming out that vaccine protection fades much quicker than previously thought. Please, I’m not arguing these positions. But it’s very vitriolic to assume that people on the other side of the argument are just uneducated / dumb.


SandpaperForThought

Like what?


bluntisimo

Picking flowers and going to monster truck rallies has nothing to do with being male and female. Social constructs are not real. I'm not sure the depth of insanity you are trying to reach but good luck on your journey.