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Shiftz_101

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JLConawayII

N64 controller was totally ergonomic as long as you were a mutant tentacle beast.


hiricinee

I mean if you ignored the dpad it was basically the superior wii nun chuck design. The dpad on the left worked great when needed, and generally was simply out of the way.


G_Viceroy

I really liked that the d pad was out of the way. There was a couple of games where it would have to be used quickly which made it a massive pain in the ass and harder than it should be.


hiricinee

Well compare to modern controllers, where if it's not used its using up valuable hand space. If you were only using an analog stick or d pad on the n64 then the unused part wasnt in the way at all


redhawk1913

Hand space is at a premium these days


sorenant

Reminds me of that time Armored Core players, desiring more agile access to buttons in the gamepad (ie press buttons without taking the thumbs off the analog stick), decided to [hold it upside down](https://i.imgur.com/lrjc1Cv.jpg).


Professional-Moose59

Modern controllers, like the Nintendo switch controller?


TheInfernalVortex

The n64 controller was never meant for three handers... it was meant to be D-pads for 2d games and joystick for 3d games, never both. Just so happens the 2d game was practically dead. But honestly holding the N64 from the middle horn was pretty much just a dual shock with the ergonomics of a banana. I liked it quite a bit.


dullcakes

It worked really well for the WWF games. Movement with the DPad, and the joystick was for taunting and using special moves. Was a super creative way to use them both without too much hassle.


Druzel1

5 year old me was too dumb to figure out that the DPad was for movement. My matches played out very differently lol.


gurg2k1

I can just picture your character spending the whole match running in place at the turnbuckle.


JamesCDiamond

Yep, might have been designed for those games it works so well.


asian_monkey_welder

I actually just stick the middle handle in my butt, and use my penis on the joystick. Pulled some sick combos.


TJFordZ

This is the only correct way to hold the controller.


Dr_Parkinglot

Best way to play Tony Cock.


isaytyler

Ocockrina of Time.


codexcdm

Pro Skeeter.


justsomeplainmeadows

This man's got a prehensile dick


coopert09

I read this as, “mutant testicle beast.”


cap0_83

N64-Pad was amazing as long as you simply played was it was designed for....N64 Games Other way around, the developers back in the days did an amazing job to make use of the hardware and map the controls to the given device!


GenericFatGuy

It's was actually a pretty smart design for a console making the transition between 2D and 3D games.


T1NF01L

I won't lie it worked great in my opinion for golden eye and turok.


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It’s weird how my memories of the n64 controller are of how much I loved using it. God knows what it would feel like today.


hromanoj10

IMO as weird as it was at the time I still prefer it to the switch joycons. Like my hand is almost as long as the switch is wide, who's idea was that?


idontstinkso

hori split pad pro is the solution


Janzibansi

True switch handheld gaming experience. Just sad they cheaped out on features. I would gladly pay 15€ extra for the gyro and nfc. Otherwise a very good controller.


SamJiji

Facts


CarefulConsequence2

Bruh imagine still having the scars from those games where they made you roll your hand on the analog stick till you were burning/bleeding. Damn you Mario Party 2


WickedGamer27

They actually stopped that practice after Mario Party 1 after widespread reports of injuries.


GuyNemeth

This is true. It was Mario Party 1 that was the problem. And I even distinctly remember that after the reports of blisters, there was a notice in an issue of Nintendo Power that said they would send a free Mario Party glove to anyone who wrote and asked for one. To this day I still regret not sending away for that glove.


Endormoon

The new mario party game has some of those palm eater games in it and they have health warnings in the instructions to not do exactly what everyone is going to do anyways.


Spuddaccino1337

At least the switch sticks are a little better on the palms


Mardak5150

That was the mechanic for submissions in Undisputed 2. We'd go into online matches as Damian Maia, clinch up, Maia was one of two characters with a flying triangle out of the clinch, lock in the submission, palm on stick, and burn that skin right off. Get a win in 40 seconds, opponent completely blindsided. We ended up wearing thin gloves whenever we played.


y047h

Mario Party Superstars now has a disclaimer about not irritating your hand for those mini-games where you gotta rotate the joystick.


theshizirl

Nintendo actually launched a promo where owners of Mario Party 1 could submit an order for a free palm glove for protection in those mini games.


lemonylol

That's why you're supposed to use the meaty part of your palm, where your thumb is, instead of the middle. I remember my friend had such a bad gash from that.


Del2Wye

I had a dream last night I was playing Apex on an N64 controller. It felt awkward


VoidHuntG03

Was there aim assist?


CazRaX

Z targeting enabled.


Picard_Indeed

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jmskywalker1976

Dreamcast said fuck this chat. Imma do my thing.


NCBaddict

The most unforgivable design flaw of the Dreamcast controller was the damn bottom cable placement. Having to bend your cable and clip it to the back was some dumb shit.


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ThetaReactor

A long day of MvC2 and those little button nubs will tear your thumb up...


jetmcleod

Original Xbox's guerrilla controller was basically a dreamcast controller.


NametagApocalypse

I loved that thing. It was like holding a warm loaf of bread.


isomorphZeta

The Duke.


Cloudeur

Those damn joysticks could cut glass!


sliphitz

As someone who absolutely hated the original xbox controller as a kid I must say the latest is the best I've ever felt. I actually got put off xbox due to the controls as a kid. The new xbox controls replaced an old ps1 controller I had been using all these years for pc.


Comprehensive_Win874

Do you mean the first Xbox controller? The Duke or something I think it's called. Thing was massive. The made a smaller one after that one.


Kodirt1

I still love the duke


TheGameSlave2

# THE DUKE


strikeratt16

I loved it when playing. Only controller I'd use for Halo 1 and 2 LAN parties. I literally couldn't use the smaller one. Probably would still like it


Ghrave

I almost bought it when it re-released with backwards and PC compatibility, then I saw the $80 price tag and said I guess I'm good on MnK still..


LunickDrago

I bought it, its cheaply made. Using the headphone port on the bottom electrocuted me through my ear buds. Its a display piece on a shelf now.


LyonsRage

You dieded?


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Ghrave

Oof, glad I saved the bucks


LunickDrago

it also cant be used wirelessly, which is annoying as hell.


NCBaddict

Superior for Halo. Everything else though 👀


Defreshs10

We had one with a built in fan that cooled your palms and it was fucking amazing


uuunityyy

Same. The new xbox controller is truly the most comfortable in the hand, with good stick placement. Although I do love the PS5 controller, it just doesn't cradle in my hand like the Xbox controller does.


Angry-Comerials

Was gonna say the same. I'm a PS fan, and really want a PS5. But I tried the Xbox controllers, and they are easily the most comfortable. Edit: I will add I have never tried the Stadia or Steam controllers, not what ever the top right one is. I do have a switch and have the pro controller. It's... Ok. I guess. But it's not as comfortable as the PS5 or Xbox controller.


F_ckMupp3t

The textured back on the "series" Xbox controllers is a really nice touch.


fanciestVeggie

The Duke managed to scare the hell out of me as a kid. The vibration was insane and Crash Bandicoot WOC had a lot of collision physics in the airplane mini-games. Combine those and you just have a massive black controller that's vibrating out of control, a screaming 4 year old and a very confused family wondering what the hell is happening lol


Ghrave

This is adorable, and I hope you know The Duke never meant you any harm, it was just a *jolly giant*.


ace_dangerfield187

yea, the elite controller is possible my favorite controller


Ike_Huminspurts

How dare you talk bad about The Duke. It was the best.


superbadsoul

I have small hands, so the S was the superior model for me.


Squall-UK

You know what the say about guys with small hands? They need small controllers


Umutuku

https://c.tenor.com/KVWBuwwPOXsAAAAC/small-hands-carnies.gif


Elite_Slacker

It was great for like 15% of users. At least it wasnt all bad, i was definitely a fan.


mcslackens

The black and white button placement left a lot to be desired. The Japanese/S controller was slightly less bad


tubbabee

I've heard mixed reviews on the steam controller due to the learning curb for the touch pads, but I've had one for years now, and it's honestly my favorite. I play on PC exclusively, and the ability to totally customize the keybinds to such a ridiculous degree is really nice. Especially for games that don't have controller support. The amount of options is almost overwhelming. But yeah, the ability to bind a ridiculous amount of keys to whatever function the controller offers, coupled with the shape, makes it the most comfortable option IMO. I have no issues playing anything from racing games, to FPS games, to MMOs, and beyond.


HappinessIsaColdPint

Master of none. I have a steam link and a steam controller.


FuzzyLittlePenguin

Same. Even got a second one during clearance. A lot of the tech is also in the Index, and you can tell by how they're the best VR controllers on the market, by *far*.


Flying-ape-dog

Bone apple tea


rico_muerte

Curve your enthusiasm


beentothefuture

Judge Judy and executioner


AchilleDem

Where my Atari boys at


BUFBills_AfricasTeam

Fun fact: Sega Genesis controllers work on Atari


TheBoyBrushedRed3

The PS5 controller is so different the PS4 controller would hurt my ring and pinky fingers. The PS5 controller is so sleek yet hefty and allows my fingers to sit just right


pablo_honey1

I was just going to comment that I love the PS5 controller so much. I've had some incredibly long gaming sessions since getting my PS5 about 6 months ago and I never have any discomfort afterwards like I did with previous gen controllers.


Adventurous_Smell188

I never even realized how weird other controllers felt until I started playing with the PS5. I was one of those people who said the controller is unnoticeable after an hour of playing because you just get used to it. Then I pick up an older controller and I feel like my fingers and wrists are all over the place.


TheKrononaut

It feels like the controllers grew up with us.


Meatwad650

I hope a “DS5 Elite” comes out with back triggers. You know, like Scuf but not a piece of crap.


dankj

I just did the extreme rate mod and I'm loving it


DriveForFive

The PS5 controller is the best controller I've ever owned.


thetasigma_1355

Just got a PS5 finally. I’ve never really cared about controllers before, I grew up on the N64 monstrosity… I can play on anything. This PS5 controller is such a huge leap forward. Between the resistant triggers and crazy rumbling it’s a huge tech upgrade.


addledhands

Have you played Returnal yet? Makes excellent use of the resistant triggers.


midnightstrike3625

I can't speak for Returnal but Astros Playroom is the best one I've played for haptic feedback. I turned it off for RE: Village and Ratchet and Clank because it got super annoying, especially for shotguns...


Electric_Guitar

The trigger resistance/feedback is fucking sex. First time I experienced it I fell in love


MistaCizm

PC gamer here, I choose xbox


JR3000

There is a reason that two of the other controllers straight up copied Xbox's controller design.


PmButtPics4ADrawing

Fun fact: the US military uses Xbox 360 controllers for operating some drones and submarines


nicolas_the_fox

Microsoft spent a ton of money making sure they were comfortable to use for any hand size for long periods of time. Not surprised they have more “professional” uses


BitGladius

It also fixes supply chain issues. No need to source replacement bespoke controls, just keep a few spare controllers in inventory for cheap.


SnideJaden

Bluetooth steering wheel starts acting up on a war machine because someone using the microwave.


The_Lost_Google_User

I’d hazard they’ve got it hard wired or straight up mounted in some way.


PlusUltraBeyond

Plus they're using Xbox 360 controllers? Whatever issues it might have should be all worked out and accounted for by now.


Ghost-Of-Nappa

yeah honestly the layout Microsoft uses is objectively the best. people can have their preferences no doubt. but scientifically Microsoft is just better.


999horizon999

They use xbox controllers in the mining industry to remotely operate vehicles too


UnspecificGravity

Yep. They literally use an off-the-shelf Xbox controller for operating the periscope on (I think) Virginia class subs. It replaced like $40,000 worth of original hardware.


birthday6

NFL uses Xbox controllers as well to view film.


sntothemax

They really don’t have a choice on this one, same reason they have microsoft surfaces in the booths and on the sidelines. Corporate partnership.


birthday6

That's a really good point that I didn't think of. I mean, I thought it was interesting that they used controllers over just mouse and keyboard, but you're absolutely right about the brand partnership.


TheHollowBard

Xbox 360 controller is the progenator god for comfy controller design. Xbone was a small but noticeable improvement, and everything else has followed suit to a certain degree. Still find Dualshocks' stick situation to be awful.


ChriSaito

I actually remember disliking the small differences of the Xbox one controller when I first got it. I’ve gotten used to it over the years though so I wonder if I was just being picky and if I’d dislike an Xbox 360 controller if I went back to it. I may have to test that.


TheButtChewks

It definitely feels different, worse in my opinion. It's a bit smaller and the battery pack crunches my fingers now. Although I was 15 when the 360 came out so my hands fit better. 23 when the Xbox One came out, and if felt like the controller grew with me


WiteXDan

If only not for the D-pad. I own only x360 controller, but without proper D-pad it's impossible to play fighting games on it.


Sighwtfman

I have used both xbox and ps controllers over multiple consoles lifetimes. Xbox is hands down the better controller. Ergonomically. Also, I prefer just popping in a new battery pack if my current controller needs one. As opposed to needing to plug in your controller or having to use a spare (which might not be available if your playing with someone).


fuckYOUswan

Not sure why you are getting downvoted, I only own Sony products but significantly prefer the Xbox controller design over Sony. Hell my pro controllers is basically an Xbox controller for that very reason. It’s just more ergonomic and being able to swap batteries is a huge plus.


Crackerfly

I just got the Stadia controller and i really like it. If I could poit one thing out, the handles should have pointed a few degrees more outward. But still really nice. Also a big fan of the WiiU pro controller.


Blaz3

Wii U Pro controller is an absolutely awesome controller. 80 hours of battery life is straight up ridiculous and it delivers


NeonPatrick

I think I charged mine twice the entire longevity of the console's life.


DontDoodleTheNoodle

I booted up my Wii U in years and I was messing around using the Pro controller as if it was gonna still work and sure enough it was still running.


Rufuszombot

They put a 3DS battery in those things. It was insane how long they lasted.


privatehabu

TIL, That’s crazy! Fuck no wonder it lasts so long.


privatehabu

80 hours should be standard. <20 bullshit now.


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Havinacow

I just got one on the second anniversary sale, and I have to say I'm impressed. The controller is great, and Stadia as a whole is a really solid experience. I bought it, plugged it in, and it just worked. I was playing RDR2 in ten minutes, without waiting for downloads or update patches, and the graphics are as good as a high end PC. Thanks for making an awesome product!


Beaniiman

I completely agree with this.


hweird

Really like the Stadia controller too, it’s a damn shame I can’t use it outside of Stadia tho. I would absolute buy more of them if they could be standard Bluetooth controllers


RegularEality

It looks like you can use them wired at least. https://community.stadia.com/t5/The-Stadia-Controller/Using-Stadia-controller-on-other-gaming-systems/m-p/51714


hweird

Thanks for this! I had no idea


AlarmingNectarine

Also another stadia player! And yeah, I’ve only ever had original PS, Xbox 360, and stadia. Out of those 3 options, stadia is amazing!


RedSquadLeader

These are all among the controller I've played and owned. Ergonomically, the steam controller is the absolute most comfortable controller going, just edging ahead of the Xbox controller which has a very similar hand grip to it, but just less comfortable button layouts.


__T0MMY__

The magic of the steam controller that no controller has achieved for me is that I *forget* I'm holding a controller while playing Using an Xbox/PS controller after using the Steam controller feels like I'm using an arcade machine


hpstg

Having used all, the Stream Controller is indeed the most comfortable. Especially if you leverage Stream Input and do everything with the track pads and gyro and just forget about everything else. The learning curve is large, but it's what has allowed me to keep gaming due to the condition of my hands.


kbachert

I absolutely love the steam controller, I have 3. I cannot stand using a joystick for camera control, and the touchpad is in a perfect spot. I wish they would release a V2.


articuno14

Can you play a shooter with the steam controller? Never used it but that right pad thing looks crazy and i.possible to control precisely. Or is it actually easier than a thumbstick?


SSSNERT

It's waay easier to control for FPS games, for me there wasn't even a learning curve, I was just immediately better than with a standard controller. Probably mainly because I'm more used to kb&m


Ghrave

Fuck, do I have to get a Steam controller now?


edible_funk

Sadly you can't.


Dildango

Wait really?


bleachisback

Yeah they sold off all their stock for $5 a while back and stopped production. Some people think they're going to do another one after the design changes in the steam deck.


Excal2

It was discontinued due to a lawsuit over patent infringement brought forward by Corsair, a PC peripheral and component company with a very poor track record on patent abuses like this. https://www.polygon.com/2021/2/3/22264213/valve-steam-controller-lawsuit-scuf-4-million I don't buy or recommend Corsair products anymore for this reason.


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kbachert

That's what I do. It takes a little getting used to. You can always adjust the feel and precision of the trackpad in the Steam UI, there's a ton of customization settings for every input. Once you get it the way you like, it's perfect.


HeartVoid

I used the steam controller for like a year, never got used to it. My favorite remains the Xbox one elite controller.


Good_ApoIIo

Everything I’ve heard about the Steam controller is great except for two giant obstacles: “You have to get used to it” and the fact that for it to feel right you have to fiddle with settings for like every game. If you get past those two things apparently it’s fantastic. But why bother when the xbox controller is plug and play?


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Carlweathersfeathers

I completely agree with the steam being the most comfortable. I unfortunately don’t game enough that I was ever able to get used to it. So it’s just my mouse when I’m on the couch, but it’s a great shape


cinred

It was the steam controller which made it apparent to me that even children can become stuck in their ways. The SC isn't perfect but for anything that requires any amount of right stick control, the SC track pad is so superior it's not even compared anymore. Still, folks were stuck on the dual joysticks.


DefectiveSp00n

I played through the entirety of the Dark Souls Trilogy with the steam controller only and I have no idea how you're supposed to play through it with dual joysticks. Slight camera control? Right thumb on track pad. Lock on with right pinky and right finger so I can use my thumb for dodging, items, or weapon swapping.


ItsCrocoSwine

I've seen someone beat dark souls with morse code, so it's not hard to imagine someone beating it with whatever they want.


HiILikePlants

Wild. It's my least favorite. The finish on it bothers me and makes my hands sweat


KalistoCA

Why is there no GameCube controller here Edit: thanks for the silver !! Glad I’m not the only one who appreciates the GameCube controller


Dont-dle

Holding that controller feels like the hand equivalent of slipping into an Eames chair at the end of a long day. I still think about the way it feels all the time.


Aerotactics

Because this audience is too young to have used a Gamecube. Still the best controller feel to date, followed by Xbox One controller.


FasterThanFTL

Specifically wavebird that thing was based


your_reddit_lawyerII

When going purely for ergonomics, I'm actually gonna go for steam controller


DrunkBeavis

That's where I'm at. I prefer playing with an Xbox controller but I think the steam controller fits my hands better.


arex333

That controller completely spoiled me for how terrific grip buttons are.


HippoKingOfOld

Yup, too niche to use for most games that I play but it feels great. It allows me to play CIV 5 from the couch which is the sole purpose it was purchased.


Aeyland

Got PS5/Xbox/Switch pro and I can’t say I notice missing anything when going between the 3. They have subtle differences but nothing that ever sticks out.


magikarpkingyo

For my large hands, Xbox bulk feels more “natural”.


JabronyJones

The PS5 controller is much bigger than the PS4 one. It's the first thing I noticed when I picked it up. It's got some heft to it as well. It's honestly pretty close to the Xbox controller now.


fourzen

yea, probably thats why i always prefered sonys, my hands are a better fit for the smaller controllers


Ramez_IV

As an occupational therapist, I would say that the Xbox controller is the most ergonomical one. The reason why, is that the leftstick is at the neutral position for your left thumb, and the buttons on the right are at the neutral position for your right thumb.


Background_Fortune12

I love the steam one for people who never use a right joystick the same way games design it. Edit_ It's actually really responsive, interesting but it's impossible to "hold RS up"


DefectiveSp00n

You can change how the program takes your input. You can either have it be a friction-track pad, or a single input joy stick. Personally, I like the track pad, but you're right in saying that some games require a "right stick up" inputs, so in that case, you have to rebind the trackpad to a joystick input.


TheGloriousPotato111

Hot take, but I think PlayStation only keeps their layout because Xbox already has the better one


COL_PRIME_TIME

Brand recognition I bet.


Millworkson2008

Well think about it like this, the PlayStation community would tear them apart if they changed it, and a certain part of the Xbox community would tear them apart as well cause they it would be admitting Xbox design is better


Wishbones_007

But that also applies to the Switch controller


hoodwinke

For fighting games, the PlayStation controller is more ergonomic.


Dexiant

Not going to lie, the Stadia controller feels surprisingly great. Got a few lying around from all the free stadias google has desperately thrown at me.


mugglmenzel

It's the best imho, having played with most of them. Just very good grip and haptics overall. I don't want to miss Stadia and its controllers! The design process is interesting: https://youtu.be/qGcuJLQjPYw


thalionquses

Switch Pro is my favourite, closely followed by the Wii U Pro and Xbox One.


Rafzalo

The WiiU pro was great, kinda sad that steam didn’t support it natively, it’s pilling up dust on a drawer cause my WiiU broke


Ritsukioku

8bitdo sells USB adapters to use on your PC or any console, even the Switch. It is really the best controller tbh.


aukir

Way too far down for just switch pro. It's like the perfect controller. It's like a dual shock Xbox controller.


Electric_Guitar

I love the switch pro controller. It just feels so right


sv2667

Came here to say exactly this! Switch Pro, got one 6 months ago and it’s changed how I enjoy switch.


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Wii U Pro controller is super underrated since it’s so unknown. I love how lightweight it is.


CB205EDEE16B24366C87

Xbox elite is an amazing controller especially with customized joystick (I use a convex on the top left). But lately I've been using the ps5 controller a lot and it's one of the best even without considering the haptics. Dualshock 3 was also great for some games.


LectricVersion

I don’t think I could ever go back to not having paddles


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GameCube


IRegretSayingThis

I use this for my switch. Maybe not my favorite of all time, but damn does it feel good


RareFirefighter6915

For smash yes. The gated analogue sticks are unique and useful in games designed around the GC controller. I wouldn’t play anything modern on it tho.


Gingerfen

Came here to say this. People be clowning on the gc controller but its the only one that ever fit comfortably in my big dumb spider hands


ohhfasho

Switch pro


mrbojingle

I fucking love the steam controller


FlaviusSabinus

For all it’s problems, it’s handfeel is top notch


will_be_gone_soon

I'm waiting for the second rumored iteration of the steam controller.


cenuh

steam controller still king


Gerti27

Xbox and pro controller are easily the best when it comes to comfort.


Flaming_Pepperoni

I agree. I love the Pro controller. Feels so good


Obliviousobi

Xbox has lead the way since 360, IMO. PS controllers just don't fit my hands (hurts my last two fingers to hold), I haven't tried the PS5 though. I also prefer the offset joysticks.


ActionCackson

I like being able to claw your index fingers up onto the dpad and face buttons better on the ps layout myself. My fingers have never the same since Monster Hunter on PSP, and I wouldn't have it any other way


Seigmoraig

Switch Pro is the best


IvnN7Commander

Xbox 360


Unexpected117

I really like the stadia controller.


Aijin28

Switch Pro is brilliant, favorite controller since Gamecube.