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Frogs shouldn’t eat fireflies. Fireflies are toxic to amphibians.

Frogs shouldn’t eat fireflies. Fireflies are toxic to amphibians.

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BV-RE2PECT

Now that people are bringing it up it will most certainly be changed because of how Mojang conducts real life animals as mobs. Unfortunately that probably means they will just remove frogs eating things with their tongues all together rather than adding something else that the frogs can eat. I hope I’m wrong.


_Drum_Bone_

Why don’t they just also add flys al they have to do is reskin fire flys and they can even make it so that if a frog eats a fire fly it dies of poison


Quantum_Crab

shouldn't be too hard to reskin them, just change one pixel.


CyberKitten05

Or Mosquituos, maybe. Those fit Swamps perfectly.


icyartillery

I have to deal with mosquitos irl, why would I want them in my cubic escapist dreamland?


Deloptin

Frog food


WindBladeGT

In this dreamland we can massacre the mosquitos whenever and however we want


DeterminedGames

Get the soulfire flamethrower boys


_Drum_Bone_

Yeah but with flys you could have them in any of the frog locations


miner1512

No *Loads flamethrower*


Intelligent_Water296

Agreed, they could add fireflies, regular black flies, mosquitos, by just changing a few pixels, and maybe the ambient sound they produce. Super easy and cheap way to add lots of diversity into the game.


TheDeadlyBlaze

ontario biome when?


MrTROLLOLOLOLOL

Im okay with not having to deal with mosquitoes in Minecraft atm


Leothecat24

I think the problem is that flies aren’t exactly, well, pretty. Fireflies are already a new style that we haven’t seen in Minecraft, but it works well because it makes such a nice ambiance. I don’t think I could get used to walking around and randomly seeing flies everywhere personally


[deleted]

Oooo and certain biomes will have high fly populations so you need frogs to get rid of them


dontneedanickname

I think instead of flies we make a new mob alltogether


_Drum_Bone_

If not flys then what?


Channelistic

glowflies, and they radiate a blueish light instead of the yellow the fireflies radiate


_Drum_Bone_

Idk fire flys may act as better ascetic


dontneedanickname

I’m not sure, just something that’s equally as bright. Perhaps bioluminescent dragonflies?


_Drum_Bone_

Is that a real type of dragonfly because Mojang might want to add a real type of bug


dontneedanickname

Mojang can add fantasy stuff, they’ve proven that time and time again. Why not with this?


_Drum_Bone_

Idk they just seemed to put some effort into making the frog realistic


juklwrochnowy

Idk, mojang has been known for taking years to make arbitrary changes, like for example the long awaited(to this day) minecart buff. Could be done by changing a single variable, but nooo


Emerald_Guy123

Because that would be a practically useless feature


_Drum_Bone_

You could ague that with almost any mob


Emerald_Guy123

But if there was an entity with the sole purpose of being eaten by a frog, it would be a waste of processing power dev time. Compared to a firefly which would be really good for ambience and does more.


Akuliszi

I don't think frogs should be able to die in minecraft. Just make them eat something else.


_Drum_Bone_

Parrots die why can’t frogs


Peoplant

They could just leave the animation and activate it randomly, as if they were eating a bug that's too small for us to see. We'd get eating frogs and they wouldn't be eating fireflies


Spaceboot1

They should eat silverfish or bees.


mvreed05

Silverfish and spiders and bees could possibly fear/attack frogs and the frogs can in turn, eat them


Derpsterio29

RIP frog tongues


Main-Cat-9684

Or they could literally just say "minecraft frogs can eat Minecraft flireflys" and call it a day


UltraD00d

Frogs should go after bees then. It would be an easy way to dispose of bees without angering the whole swarm.


DanTheManCanT

This annoys me because it seems like the reason the updates take so long to come out is because of all of the research and experimenting, and something like this is missed lol which is surprising with how much Agnes was thrilled about the frog research. Can't be expected to know all I guess


WhereAmIOhGod

It happened with the parrots and cookies- mistakes happen. I just hope they fix this bit as it is a dangerous misconception I’ve seen as a reptile and amphibian hobbyist myself.


pokefire44

Parrots and cookies seemed like a bad joke, this seems like a mistake


Carteige

I think the origin was “polly want a cracker” and cookies are similar to crackers


MCjossic

I really hope Mojang sees this. Something similar has happened in the past, with parrots and cookies, so there’s a real chance they’ll change it if only they see this


WhereAmIOhGod

Yeah. I really hope Mojang changes it


Pen_Cipher

It wouldn't be a hard change to implement, maybe add a second type of bug since they're just particles, have them not glow and say they're flies


fail-deadly-

Say they are mosquitoes.


ImInfiniti

and if they bite you, you get the malaria effect, which you can never get rid of. it'll randomly start taking your health, and if you dont take ur meds in time, you die Edit: for those of you who dont get it, >!in farcry 2, you had this super annoying malaria mechanic which randomly starts damaging you and you need it's meds to survive!<


Icebot_YT

We already have creepers hiding in forests no need to make it more like Vietnam


ImInfiniti

i dont think you got the joke lol


Zlzbub

Right back at you


ImInfiniti

i still didnt get it ​ maybe im the one who's dumb


AugTheViking

I don't think you got his joke, either.


AugTheViking

Ah yes, malaria, the disease invented by Far Cry 2.


WhereAmIOhGod

Yeah that would be cool!


thezombiekiller14

They should make them dragon flies with actual little models


insane_antelope

FPS left the chat


Fergus_Dergus

That's a brilliant idea to have fire flies and dragon flies added. And they can add bull reeds for the dragonflies to land on and stuff


danndelion_dani

or just use sugarcane


Fergus_Dergus

Sugar cane is very different to bull reeds.


Realshow

Honestly I’d prefer they get actual models either way, the particle design clashes with the other bugs in the game.


Andyroomocs

I think they should keep the fireflies just don’t have the frogs eat them. Another idea is to have frogs shoot their tongues at nothing. It’s implied that there’s a bug there and not directly eating fireflies


gmunga5

I mean now that you say that I don't think they actually managed to eat any in the footage we saw. Any they put their toungs out for just continued flying around so shouldn't be hard to maybe just take the "near fireflys" mechanic out of it.


WhereAmIOhGod

Yeah 100%!! I agree with you honestly.


Andyroomocs

Share this to mojang on Twitter. Plz plz plz


WhereAmIOhGod

I don’t have Twitter :( someone else please do so if you see this!!


Andyroomocs

I shared it! I hope this gets recognized ❤️


Konomi_

or, they could change the texture of fireflies a bit and give them a different name. then we can have glowing bugs that frogs can eat and they arent poisonous because fictional mob means you get to make your own rules


MCjossic

Glowflies, more orange like glowberries. They also spawn on glow caves


tditdatdwt

Why do you think that, why do you care about this


Andyroomocs

Becuase why not? Following mojang’s logic, having frogs eat fireflies would in turn encourage kids to feed fireflies to their frogs which I’ve now learned is bad for them, thanks to OP.


tditdatdwt

The player has no interaction with this though, and they do eat them in the wild


ThatTrampolineboy

Definitely post this one on the feedback site and reply to this message when you do so I can vote for it. I really love the mechanic of the frogs eating the firefly but it is important that the game doesn’t support dangerous things which they don’t plan to do so I’m sure they will remove this. Instead, the food sources can change to silverfish and spiders to add some use.


AetherDrew43

Can frogs even eat the giant ass spiders of Minecraft though?


IWishIWasSuperKai64

With a tiny dinner plate and a knife, yes


aqua_zesty_man

It would be hilarious if they just slurped them up like a giant cartoon monster from Monty Python. Turn them into hoppity black holes of death that only affect arachnids.


DeathClawProductions

No. If anything, the Spiders would eat the frogs (and it's not like this is unheard of in real life, Tarantula's in particular have been known eating frogs and other small vertebrates when they manage to catch them).


Truenorth14

Tarantula's are also known to keep pet frogs in a way as well


infraspace

Those mobs should fear frogs. Like cats/creepers.


ThatTrampolineboy

This is a better mechanic. Instead they can only EAT silverfish and ender mites.


CyberKitten05

Ooo, and when they eat Endermites they teleport like when a Player eats a Chorus Fruit.


ThatTrampolineboy

We did it boiz, we made Minecraft.


RasmusLeddyr

I love this.


Andreus2009

French


JustAFleshWound1

Here is a link to the feedback website: https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/community/posts/4411487529613-Fireflies-are-toxic-dangerous-to-frogs-Different-frog-foods-please-


ThatTrampolineboy

Thank you very much. Glad to see a lot of votes on it.


WhereAmIOhGod

Don’t think I’ll be able to post there so I hope someone else can


TheOPWarrior208

I'll do it when i wake up !remindme 8 hours


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Feathercrown

How?? Just post it


orangelion17726

I think this is definitely worth taking into consideration. Maybe the should redesign the fireflies to be purely ambient, and instead have dragonflies be the food source for frogs.


HaydenRyder52

100% yes


RetroAnd8BitThings

Or maybe just turn the current firefly mob into a normal fly and treat the fireflies as a particle effect.


Martijndebakker

And said dragonflies would eat fireflies.


Comprehensive_Fox_79

I agreeeeeeee


BV-RE2PECT

I would personally disagree with this, Mojang doesn’t add many new mobs as is so it would be a shame to just replace them with particles (that would be turned off with everything else if people inactivate particles for frame issues).


orangelion17726

I didnt personally say change them to a particle effect, i just said make them a purely ambient mob, like the bat


Sithoid

I'd prefer fireflies as particles precisely for frame issues. A couple of entities is ok, but with the density we've seen in the promo swamps might become a lag fest.


Testmaster217

First parrots eating cookies (which they fixed). Then axolotls eating tropical fish (which they didn’t fix). Now this. Hmmmmm.


Jackmatica

Never got why tropical fish.


Rami-Slicer

I don't really see how the tropical fish one is a mistake.


Testmaster217

Someone on here once posted that it should be changed because its basically the equivalent of dog treats for a dog. Once in a while is fine but too much is bad for it.


MaxineFinnFoxen

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DispenserHead

Literally how did they not catch this?


RomanTick194173

Yeah, good point! They should just make fireflies particle effects instead of actual entities, cause I'm worried how my computer would handle that many tiny entities. Then the frogs would just stick their tongues out randomly regardless of whether or not fireflies are nearby. Thanks for bringing this up, hope mojang sees it!


SquidMilkVII

To everyone saying we should have a new bug for frogs to eat Dragonflies


TheTwisterMan

We've seen something like this before with parrots and cookies, so I doubt frogs eating fireflies will be in the update when it comes out, nice of you to point this out!


McModknower

For the people interested in it, here are links to what i think are the sources: 1. https://neeness.com/can-frogs-eat-fireflies/ 2. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/07 /990728073414.htm 3: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/07/990728073414.htm


Sir_James_Ender

I’m sure they’ll eventually see this or another similar post. They’re pretty good about changing that stuff before full release


TheGrumpyRavenclaw

Gotta signal boost this to Mojang HQ


City-scraper

Reminds of Parrots and Cookies


hekkinree123

This actually happened before a while back. When birds were added there was a feature that you could tame them with cookies, however cookies are dangerous for parrots irl, so the feature was removed and replaced with seeds.


GalacticAnimations

Ok but i still want fireflies because they're pretty


WhereAmIOhGod

Same!


DeathClawProductions

This is actually a great point (and one I didn't think about until I saw this post). Perhaps Frogs could instead eat mostly normal flies and mosquitos. Maybe they could attack Silverfish and Endermites as well?


WhereAmIOhGod

That would be fun!


SnowBallEarth43

I didn't know that.... I just learned something new!


Jordanw0314

they should also add flies. frogs will eat the flies, but they wont eat fireflies.


ValtsuRi

Yeah. They should eat flies.


RandomGgames

What about adding multiple flying creatures such as dragon flies, and butterflies/moths along with fire flies?


OnlyCallMeAriel

I think fireflies will be particles, if thats the case they can make it a mix of fireflies and normal flies, this way we still have fireflies and the frogs can still eat stuff.


Rami-Slicer

Personally I don't think this is something the developers really should have to deal with, it's a block game after all, but if they really want to make it realistic I think the frogs should just eat a different type of fly.


Rocatex

minecraft gets canceled on twitter for being racist towards frogs


oo_Mxg

Meh, it's a game with fire monsters, witches, laser-water-cyclops, dragons and the wither. It doesn't need to be 100% realistic


Vorpalthefox

you seem to [forget this little pre-release](https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Java_Edition_1.12-pre3) that made cookies kill parrots, since it's **toxic** to them


oo_Mxg

I know, and that was a stupid move too


Vorpalthefox

imagine feeding your minecraft parrot a chocolate chip cookie and it getting hearts so you feed that you your real parrot and your parents tell you grandma has to take care of it now people have pets, people like to feed their pets the same thing they do in games, people believe it or not games are very influential on people making a change that will save the lives of countless pet frogs and lizards, as well as countless pet parrots is **definitely not a stupid move**


oo_Mxg

If you are irresponsible enough to not learn about the animal you're about to get, or if the food you're about to give it is poisonous to it, you don't deserve a pet


spedroca127

What if a young kid plays minecraft and sees it? They would still deserve a pet because young kids shouldn't need to search about the pet


oo_Mxg

young children don't deserve fragile pets


Dragonsapian7000

Every animal has its weaknesses. Mastiffs can die from chocolate ingestion and those are big sturdy dogs.


Arkov__

The parents should prevent that.


Dragonic-art-sloth

Parents can’t watch their kids 24/7, and I doubt the parents are going “Gee, I hope my kid doesn’t feed the parrot cookies” because, tbh, who thinks their kid might do that, before it happens?


assassin10

Mojang strives for realism when they add things from real life to the game. The fact that there are also witches and dragons doesn't matter.


WhereAmIOhGod

Realistic or not, fireflies and frogs ARE real animals and there are consequences for misinformation even if you can’t see it. Many pet owners have accidentally killed their frogs or lizards because they didn’t know fireflies were toxic- or were told they weren’t toxic.


oo_Mxg

not mojang's fault, if you're going to have a pet it's your responsibility to learn about the animal


TBestIG

How many six year olds do you know who go on google and carefully research things before they try something stupid they saw on TV or in a video game?


poopshit666

that’s not the point?


Total_Calligrapher77

Parrots and cookies


thezombiekiller14

Minecraft already changed parrots 5p not eat cookies anymore because cookies are toxic. Mojang activly would want to know this and change it based on what they have done prior. That being said knowing Mojang they'll just remove the frogs eating things altogether.


Prestigious-Ask-3038

This will most likely get changed to your solution, remember when Parrots were able to eat Cookies and also the massive controversy about Sharks in minecraft? You can be happy to have your suggestion being implemented.


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Zach_2720

What, you think this game is realistic?


Realshow

Minecraft is the best selling game of all time. Even if it’s not consistently realistic, it shouldn’t teach its players misinformation about real animals.


Dragonic-art-sloth

I mean, they did change the parrots so they eat seeds instead of cookies. The cookies now poison the parrots. They changed it because a kid fed his bird a cookie and the bird got really sick. That’s the biggest reason I think they would change the food frogs eat, so kids don’t accidentally kill real frogs by feeding them unhealthy food


Rami-Slicer

the r/KidsAreFuckingStupid kids


supermarioplush220

Just make the flies.


Insomnia_Idiot69

yea its minecraft it shouldn't have to be scientifically accurate


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Zlzbub

Mojang has a policy when it comes to adding real world mobs, which is why the shark wasn't added (I think there was an old dream video on that) and why they made it so if you fed a parrot a cookie it would die.


CyberKitten05

When kids try to breed 2 female chickens irl because they saw it in Minecraft, nothing would happen. When kids find a frog in their backyard and feed it a firefly because they saw it in Minecraft, it would die. It's really that simple.


WhereAmIOhGod

Exactly


Mr_Snifles

Idc


Looked_Spy_637832

Imo they can remove the fireflies overall, they’re just gonna cause lag


Katze10-0-10

or maybe they should still eat them, and then get poison damage, but if the frog survives the poison damage, the frog is never eating a firefly again?


pige0nzwastaken

🤓☝️


TNTsquid10

Oh lord its the parrots and cookies thing all over again (as long as nobody assumes that they can feed fireflies to their pet frog then it should be fine...ish (tho I don't think it will be as big of a problem as the parrots and cookies situation since fireflies arent really a commercial product you might already have in ur house, so your not likely to just go buy some fireflies somehow JUST cuz you saw it on minecraft. With the parrots situation people already had cookies in their house so it was very easy to make the mistake of thinking you can feed them cookies, then go and try it. this way, your more likely to find out that its dangerous or just give up before you ever get the chance to feed your frog a firefly ​ tho it is gonna bother some people with that inaccuracy bing in the game but whatever, the glowsquids have lopsided eyes for some reason, while firefly squids dont(basically real life glowsquids) so whatever lol